All Bran Recipe

[braemar]

Hi Rad,
Thanks for the advise.
I worked out that 2 tablespoons for 1 gallon equals around 12 tablespoons for 26 litres which is just under 6 gallons is this right or have i put in to much yeast?
I was planning to distill this in the middle of next week so it sounds like it will be ready by then.
I will add yeast to the cereal when i boil it next batch to kick start it.
Would it be much better if i used brewers yeast instead of bakers yeast?
Regards
Braemar

[rad14701]

braemar, 12 tablespoons was good... The confusion was the ambiguous abbreviation for tablespoons (tps) rather than (tbsp)...

The amount of boiled yeast per gallon doesn't need to be very great as it seems that a little goes a long ways... I've been able to back the amount down quite a bit and adding too much makes for a very large head of foam, with or without kraeusen... I've gone a far as boiling half as much yeast as I was pitching but I thik that's overkill...

I've never tried brewers yeast so maybe someone else can chime in on its use... I haven't even used wine yeast in decades...

It sounds like the wash will be ready to run by next week at the rate it's going...

[braemar]

Thanks Rad
Sorry about the typo.
Giving me a keyboard is like giving a machine gun to a monkey.
Regs
Braemar

[Photonic]

Watching this wash over the last couple of days has been quite theraputic.

First, all the little bits of bran rose to the top, then little rainbow bubbles formed on top of that, then the bran turned white piece by piece and then dropped to the bottom of the jar leaving behind a yellow/green liquid.

I can't wait to see what happens next.

It smells very drinkable already!

[myerfire]

Rad, I need a little clarification on the type of bran. I was in Safeway this morning and they have bran in bulk. It is in a bin and ground rather fine, not to a powder, but not flakes either. It has been ground a little finer than grains for making beer. Is this what you are useing?
myerfire

[rad14701]

Rad, I need a little clarification on the type of bran. I was in Safeway this morning and they have bran in bulk. It is in a bin and ground rather fine, not to a powder, but not flakes either. It has been ground a little finer than grains for making beer. Is this what you are useing?
myerfire

I use the actual breakfast cereal bran flakes, All Bran or Total... My regional grocery store also has a store brand that is identical to All Bran... They are chock full of vitamins and minerals...

I know the bran you are describing but haven't tried it yet... I can get it boxed, in the baking section, or in bulk... The only downside to it is that it isn't fortified with the vitamins and minerals...


Here's a brief explanation of how I choose what cereals I use... I surf the website of my regional grocery and pull up likely candidates to see what they have fore nutrients... I enter all of the data into a spreadsheet, adjusting all serving sizes to be the same, usually 1/4 cup, for accurate comparison purposes... I add up the percentages and then store the total as a decimal number instead of a percentage... The higher the number, the more nutrients by volume... I also track cost by volume for reference... The following is an example...

Very unscientific cereal nutrient comparison.

[myerfire]

Thanks Rad, I'll check out the breakfast cereal section in the grocery store for All Bran or Total or some other bran flakes.
myerfire

[Photonic]

I ran a gallon trial of this recipe, using Bran Flakes but instead substituted baker's yeast for standard wine yeast (I have loads of it here)...

Rad, you sir are a genius.

I ran it through my airstill, threw the first 50-60ml into my foreshots (fuel) bottle and stopped collecting when the ABV hit 30%.
Straight of the still it tasted good with a lovely aftertaste.

I imagine that this will only need a little oaking and nothing too strongly charred to make a decent whiskyish drink.

I'm going to do a 25litre batch next and maybe cut the sugar with some powdered malt extract.


I realised that I am never going to economically make anything that approaches a decent neutral with my tiny pot still as I'd have to double-distill and then make drastic cuts to get the hearts, so I love this recipe as I wasn't hoping for anything like a neutral.

Thanks, and this recipe gets my vote for "Tried and True".

[HookLine]

Thanks for that table, Rad.

[Daantje]

Found this in the supermarket, would it be any good to use in stead of all bran?

Its 7 grain energt breakfast:

made from whole grains (87.6% wheat , 2% oats , 2% rice , 2% barley , 2% rye , 2% corn 2% millet)

per 100 grams:

12.4 g proteins
64.2 g carbo hydrates (0.9 g sugars)
2.1 g fat
13.4 g fibers
0.12 g Na
391 mg K
3.4 mg iron
0.8 mg Vitamine B1
0.1 mg Vitamine B2
0.3 mg B6

[rad14701]

Thanks for that table, Rad.

I think the chart helps you get a visual on why some cereals perform better than others... While I can get run of the mill Corn Flakes at the bottom of the price range scale it only has about 17% of the nutrients that All Bran contains... And that means that you can play with the amount of cereal used either to enhance the flavor a bit more or to use the bare minimum amount to attain a full and timely ferment...

I just put down another small wash yesterday to use up some of the ingredients I had here... It's only a 6L wash with a 12.9% ABV potential... At the 24 hour mark the airlock is still bubbling away non-stop... I was hoping to get a new electric boiler built to run it through but it doesn't look like that'll transpire...


@Daantje

The amount of fat in that product sounds a bit high... You could always try it... I tend to go by the nutritional values to get a better idea of usable nutrients percentages by volume, but that's just me...


@Photonic

Glad you like the simplicity of this recipe... It provides a relatively effortless ferment once you have the airlock in place...

[Daantje]

Even if the fat value is a bit high, I was interested because of the amount of wheat components.
I'm not that much interested in a quick nutritious ferments, but more in a easy way to carry over some of those wheat flavors in a whisky like end product. So I will give it a try and keep you guys posted how it turns out.

Daantje

[HookLine]

Thanks for that table, Rad.

I think the chart helps you get a visual on why some cereals perform better than others.

Yes, obviously the specifics are going to vary depending on what brands are available in a given location. But it gives a general idea of what to look out for.

[scarecrow]

But it gives a general idea of what to look out for.

I generally look for anything that is high in protein (for the nitrogen). That's why I tried beans and legumes. They have the highest protein I know of. Generally around 20 -25%.
If you add a multivitamin and a vitamin B tablet you have a fairly potent mixture.

And the smell when you cook them up is nice too.

Most cereals have the vitamins and minerals added (by government regulations) and the protein comes from the grains they use.

scarecrow

[FlyboyTR]

Rad,
I have followed this thread since the beginning. I know that there have been many changes along the way. I have read that...."I tried this....I added this..." etc. Could I ask you to summize the (your) "final " recipe for the All Bran...sort of the best of the best? Thanks!

FlyboyTR